Sunday, April 20, 2008

Magic Number Note--10 or more attorneys


Now includes the Snell & Wilmer billables explanation (confirmed by someone in office).

Ok. So there have been a number of comments about how many of the top magic number firms only have 2-3 attorneys in Vegas and shouldn't be on the list. The magic number list is to give the readers a collection of any and all salary/billable information out there about Vegas firms.

So, here is an abbreviated list of magic numbers (known by the blog) for the firms with more than 10 attorneys:
Ballard Spahr 68 ($133,000/1950 billables)
Holland & Hart 67 ($120,000/1800 billables)
Snell & Wilmer [1] 67 ($120,000/1800 billables)* -- [only 1800 billables for 1st yr]
Fennemore Craig 65 ($125,000/1925 billables)
Payne & Fears 64 ($125,000/1950 billables)*
Lewis & Roca 63 ($120,000/1900 billables)*
Lionel Sawyer 61 ($110,000/1800 billables)
Snell & Wilmer [2] 60 ($120,000/2000 billables)* -- [billables required after 1st yr]
Hale Lane Peek 57 ($105,000/1850 billables)*
Brownstein Hyatt 56 ($110,000/1950 billables)
Jones Vargas 55 ($102,000/1850 billables)*
McDonald Carano Wilson 54 ($100,000/1850 billables)
Gordon & Silver 53 ($95,000/1800 billables)
Santoro, Driggs 53 ($95,000/1800 billables)*
Kummer Kaempfer 53 ($100,000/1900 billables)*
Morris Pickering 51 ($95,000/1850 billables)
Marquis & Aurbach 50 ($100,000/2000 billables)
McCormick Barstow 46 ($80,000/1750)
Lewis Brisbois 43 ($84,000/1950 billables)
Alverson, Taylor 42 ($78,000/1840 billables)*
Thorndal, Armstrong 31 ($68,000/2160 billables)
Greenberg Traurig ($112,000/ ???? billables)
Jolley Urga ($92,000/ avg of 1850 billables--no minimum listed)

16 comments:

  1. FYI, Ballard Spahr as 12 attorneys.

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  2. Hollard and Hart has 11 attorneys if you count its 2 stall attorneys.

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  3. Thanks for the feedback. Changes have been made.

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  4. McCormick Barstow is actually at $80K to start and 1750 billables.

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  5. Thanks for the McCormick Barstow tip. Changes made.

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  6. Snell & Wilmer is 40 attorneys and 1800 is the minimum to get a bonus. We would love to see 2000 hours out of associates

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  7. Can anyone confirm the Snell & Wilmer change in minimum billables?

    HR at S&W filled out the 2008 NALP form listing 2000 minimum billables.

    I'd like some more feedback before making a change.

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  8. Snell raised its 1st year salary to 120K

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  9. the starting salary is somewhat misleading if you do not consider at least the two most expensive fringe benefits, ie health insurance and 401k. health coverage for a first year associate and family costs $1,150 per month. 401 contributions can range up to 100% matching. so a staring salary of $80,000, plus a fully matching 401k is an additional 8,000, added is health at 12 months x 1,150 for 13,800, resulting in a total compensation package of $101,800.

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  10. Payne & Fears starts at $125k, not $110 k. The information regarding billables is correct.

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  11. I am interested in seeing what the yearly raises are after the first year. I understand the range is pretty big, anywhere from a couple thousand at some firms to $15k at others.

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  12. All updates made. Thanks for the tips. If any of you are at these firms, you might want to tell the Recruiter to contact NALP and fix the 2008 numbers.

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  13. Lewis & Roca also is 120 effective September.

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  14. uh, snell's minimum is definitely not 1800.

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  15. I have an email into Snell & Wilmer asking for confirmation on the reduction from 2000 to 1800 billable hours. However, until I get some concrete info, we're gonna go with 2000 billables--their number according to NALP.

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