1) Who cares that Erik Scott was on prescription medication that was legally provided to him by his doctor.
2) The obese monstrosity that murdered Erik Scott(Mosher) clearly told him to draw his weapon when he said, "drop the firearm."
3) None of the witnesses who have testified so far would survive cross examination. Some barely seemed to make it through the softball questioning they did receive.
We need an adversarial process where a representative of the victims family can question the officers and witnesses. The inquest is a travesty, an innocent man is murdered and the killers get a paid vacation and continued employment.
Preempt Cadish every time. Biased against Plaintiffs. An insurance company's dream. Will try to find a way to hurt your case if you are a plaintiff's attorney.
Is it "attorneys fees" "attorney's fees" or attorneys' fees"
in other words
Is it a term in and of itself, do you reference s' if multiple attys are on the case or on behalf of the firm, or do you use 's if there is only one attorney of record?
Without directly debating whether the overall inquest process is good or bad, I will say that I think it is horrid that all of his medical information is coming out. There is a simple question: What did the cops think/believe at the time they shot him and what behavior by the victim occurred THAT DAY. The cops knew nothing about any prescriptions or depression and their decision to fire had NOTHING to do with it. I still want to hear the Costco employees voice on the 911 tape. I am still betting they took an innocuous situation and turned it into an over the top reaction because of their own lack of understanding of concealed carry and guns.
I'm with you, 9:07. Either he pointed an unholstered gun at the cops, or he didn't. End of story. All of the other stuff is character evidence that would never see the light of day in a normal, fair, process.
I have a serious question for young male attorneys who dress well. Where do you shop for suits and dress shirts? I need a couple of new suits and want to look good. I don't want to buy a cheap ass suit from Men's Warehouse, but also I am only a 2nd year associate so I can't afford the absolute best. I'm at one of the larger firms in town and need to look sharp for some day when I eventually get to actually go to court or something.
If he had a holstered weapon on his waistband, then how is he to comply with a command to "drop it" other than by pulling it from his waistband? I have no idea if that is what happened or not. I don't know if the police acted properly or improperly, nor am I a conspiracy theorist with regard to the surveillance equipment or anything else. My point is that all of the witnesses need to be called and subjected to vigorous cross-examination so that the jury can arrive at the truth, rather than just listening to a bunch of leading questions and softballs being thrown by the DA. If any of the officers want to take the 5th, then they have the same right to do that as any other citizen would.
9:50 -- In ascending order of price/quality: Jos. A. Bank, as long as you buy the "Signature" line or better (good if you are fresh out of school and essentially need to buy an entire wardrobe all at once), a sale at Dillards, or the Neimann Marcus outlet store in Primm. A step up from that would be the half-yearly sale at Nordstrom.
Outlets like Off 5th for suits. Even Burlington Coat Factory is now carrying Armani and some "higher end" off-the-rack stuff.
Shirts - I cycled through several different brands over the years and now I'm partial to Van Heusen for daily wear because they're comfortable enough, wrinkle and stain free and nearly indestructible. $20 a pop at the outlet downtown. When you spill on them, well, you're only out $20... Learned my lesson from ruining $80+ shirts with pens, steak grease, etc that it wasn't worth the hassle and risk.
If you are just starting out, the best decent quality suit for the price would be the Signature Gold suits at Jos A Banks (don't even mess with the two lower level suits they sell). About every 2-3 months they run a buy 1 get 2 free sale. The Signature Gold suit "normal" price is $995, so for a thousand bucks you get 3 decent quality suits.
As opposed to high end suit shops like Brooks Brothers, etc, Jos A Banks charges extra for tailoring. If you know a good tailor, you might want to consider skipping the tailoring at the store and have your own tailor do it for you.
Dress shirts, go outlet. Buy 100% cotton, DO NOT buy polyester blend. Find out what your face type is like so you know what you look best in, i.e. spread collar, pointed collar, etc. Strive for higher quality cotton and have your shirts professionally laundered. Develop a relationship with your cleaner and don't be afraid to point out if the pressing is bad or if buttons are broken by the cleaner after pressing. Stay away from button down shirts, they look too informal.
As your income increases (and your student loan balance decreases), begin to shop for higher quality suits and dress shirts as well as shoes. I have suits and shoes that are 10+ years old and still look great. As long as you take care of high quality clothing and shoes, they will last a long time. I tend to buy 2-3 suits per year minimum whether I "need" a new suit or not. You will quickly find that in 4 or 5 years you will have a closet full of suits.
For suits, look for half-canvassed at the minimum. Stay away from fused suits. They are typically junk. I've found good value on suits at TM Lewin and Charles Tyrwhitt (if you like an English cut suit). TM Lewin is great for shirts, too. Slim fit for that tailored look. A good tailor can make a suit. They are tough to find in Vegas.
Pediwear and Herring Shoes for good, English, handmade shoes. You want a calfskin shoe, no corrected grain crap. The exchange rate probably isn't as favorable with the pound as it once was. A year or two ago it was quite nice. For decent American shoes: Allen Edmonds or Alden (too clunky for my tastes).
Buying quality will pay off in the long run. Add an item as income allows. Black cap toe shoes are a must for a first pair of shoes. Solid charcoal gray or navy as a first or second suit. Expand from there.
I second 9:50. On shirts, I have been buying mine at Jos. A. Bank for years. They seem to hold up quite well to professional laundering, and they look more expensive than they are. With the downturn in the economy, they seem to have a perpetual sale running as well.
I would tend to be cautious of certain "outlet" stores. For example, the Brooks Bros. outlets often carry a cheaper grade that is specifically for their "outlet" stores. Neimann's outlet in Primm is the real deal. Still expensive, but occasionally you find something really marked down.
Quality lulz. Thanks. No rules violated therein anon. Although your second inquiry is an indirect violation of Rules 1 & 2.
You will receive an oversized bluetooth headset in the mail shortly, and Bluedouche Gibson will call from his oversized headset to inform you of the pending lawsuit.
It's Friday and you're talking suits. Man you guys are gay. Go down to the Fruit Loop and gobble balls after your fashion discussion "boys". Now, to an important topic, is it me or is Tobiasson the spitting image of the naughty librarian in every pre-pubescent teen's masturbation fantasy. I keep waiting for her to whip off those glasses and "take me back in chambers"...
Wait for the semi-annual sales at Brooks Brothers, Nordstrom, Saks, etc. You can usually get $1,000 suits for about $400.
I like the no-iron dress shirts from Brooks Brothers, 3 for $160. Throw them in the wash and take them out of the dryer while warm and they look great. Saves a ton to not have to take shirts to the cleaner.
And yes, don't buy suits or shirts at the Brooks Brothers outlet, it is not the same stuff as the main store. But you can get good deals on ties, cufflinks, etc. there.
9:50 - I'm a woman, but it was a similar challenge early on. I have found watching the Neiman Marcus website for sales, at least in the Women's suits you can find some spectacular deals in their sale pages.
Also, for holidays, my family always knew that the best gift was a gift card to Dillard's or Nordstom. That way I could use that to help offset the cost of items. I also always started on the sale racks and then would hold out with my gift cards and strategically shop around major sales (half-yearly sale, etc.). That way I could end up with a couple suits and a couple pairs of shoes with an expenditure of $500 out of my pocket.
Another tip, set aside a fixed amount of money every month for clothes. That way, when you go to do your shopping you have the money up front to pay for the goods.
9:50 Another solution if your the creative type is to knit your own suits. $100 worth of yarn from Michael's and a little elbow grease and you can have a whole closet full of high quality suits AND ties. For shoes I recommend carving them out of wood or cutting up some old car tires into sandals.
Do not be fooled by a "Made in Italy" label. More and more these days, Italian suits are made from the same materials and by the relatives of the "Made in China" suits. From what I gather, it's causing some resentment among the older Italians (read: everyone but the Chinese immigrants), but it's something to watch out for.
I even had a shop owner straight up tell me that one rack of China suits was the same as their rack of Italy suits, but they put their own label on the Italy suits and doubled the price.
9:50: If you are going to buy and off the rack suit, make sure and take it to a real tailor for proper fitting. Stay away from the in-house tailor at the department stores or you end up looking like you practice in CD.
Does anyone know the proper procedure for getting your name dissociated with cases you worked on at prior law firms? I keep hearing different things. Some people have suggested filing a motion to withdraw as counsel, but that doesn't really seem to fit the situation. The client will still be represented by my former law firm, I just don't work there anymore and don't want my name associated with the case.
It has also been suggested to just file a notice of withdrawal.
@1:06, you'll need to obtain the official file and use a black sharpie to obliterate all references to your name. The clerk's are always cools with it.
@1:06. In federal court, you can file something called a notice of change of counsel (or similar). I filed it from the "inside" letting the court know that one of the people who had been working on the file left and I would be taking over. Seems like it would work the other way too. Call the clerk's office. They are very nice.
For District Court I have told the courtroom clerks at check-in that so and so is no longer with our firm and they update the information. Seems also like that would work the other way.
Speaking of peremptory challenges and the inability to exercise them, Judge Sciscento is LOST in the civil arena currently. It is painful to watch and even more painful to be part of the circus.
@1:24 - are you crazy. Altering a file is against the law or do you bother reading the law. Second, all files are now electronic, how would you use a sharpie on them, blot out your name on the screen?
Well, it's been a long week. I think I'll head over to Costco to see if I can get these water bottles to fit into a cooler or something. See everyone on Monday!
Duh, just file a motion to withdraw. Your name will be on the previous pleadings as it well should because you were in fact attorney of record and these are permanent files. Cannot do just a notice of withdrawal because the issue for why you were attorney is not concluded. Try reading the rules.
If you don't like the way the Coroner's Inquest is run, don't blame the DA. Blame the legislature. Read NRS 259.050. Under subsection 3, the DA had the discretion all along to sweep this under the rug by certifying that no inquest was needed- but they didn't do that. They are putting the evidence out there, good and bad considering they played the tape of the defendant's girlfriend, so that tells me they are doing their job. If you want cross-examination and you want an adversarial process, get on the legislature to amend NRS 259.050 to require it.
Those bottles will fit in your cooler better if you swallow a bottle of hydrocodone first. In any case the bullets will hurt less if you happen to get shot.
Really bad lawyering by the Family's attorney. Had he just shut up from the beginning, none of the meds would have come out. But, he backed Metro into a corner.
Real nice touch is that girlfriend will now have a problem with Rx pads. Good job!
HAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, were you serious? Were you just planning to move here with no prior connections and no job prospects in the hope that a $100k cushy job would magically appear for you?
What the hell is up with all the fags taking over this site today? Suits, shirts, shoes, ties! WTF you queers!
Here's the answer: Become a solo practitioner like me, sleep in everyday, bang your wife every morning after the kids go to school, and then wear flip flops, shorts, and a Tommy Bahama shirt to work each day. Keep a sports jacket and a couple of white shirts, slacks, and ties in the office for when you have court hearings.
If you have connections, work them to the bone. If you don't, choose another state. Seriously. The legal unemployment rate is sky high in Las Vegas right now and any advantages to Las Vegas are outweighed by the fact that you will probably not get a job unless you come here with an offer.
For tailor made suits go to Thailand. They do a great job and are really cheap. But don't go for the $100 places. You should be able to get three suits, three tailor made shirts, and three ties for $1000 at one of the top places.
I liked the Chinese Taylor. But Raja is also supposed to be very good. Bobby Neru (sp?) is also top quality.
You'll get $1500-2000 quality suits for $1,000, with shirts and ties. Their ties weren't so stylish. So the money you save pays for the trip. Spend two days in Bangkok to get the first and second fitting, then hit the beach, and come back early on the day you fly out to pick up the suit.
Chinese Taylor met me at the aiport hotel the night before I flew out.
@2:52: I just banged her a few times after you left. By the way, love the shorts and flip flops I am wearing on your patio watching your kids call me uncle as I bounce them on my knee
As a general rule for men's clothing, it's all about the quality of the material. Shitty material looks shitty. Here's what you do...
1. Always be on the lookout for shirts and suits that are made from good material and that are in your general size.
2. Find a good tailor. I use George at 257-6299. He takes off to his homeland of Greece wach September so he should be back soon.
3. Have the tailor alter the shirt or suit to fit you. I am not just talking about the length of the sleeves or hemming the trousers, have him fit the torso and slim the pants and the arms. Also, make sure he takes up the shirt's armholes.
4. Rock in style.
As far as places to purchase said clothes, it's all relative. I used to get Hugo Boss suits from the outlet or Off 5th but they were extremely boxy and quality was marginal. Now I look to Hickey Freeman or Z Zenga suits which you can get on sale for around $700. They will still need about $200 worth of alterations but once done they will look bespoke.
And to that point, any off the rack suit will need such alterations. Even Ermengildo Zegna suits at Neimans have lower arm holes and bodier builds - they manufacture for the masses, not you. So unless you're buying Tom Ford suits or having bespoke suits made, look for suits made from a good material and alter to look like a million bucks.
Unless you are a clothes horse, the suggestions above involve spending way more money than many people really care to spend. If you feel 10x better in a $1000 suit than you would feel in a $100 suit, then by all means hit Neimans or Bernini or have Suitcase Murphy (Tom LeShan from Tom James) deck you out. If you think you might have a better investment for the other $900, then get a serviceable suit from the other outlets (Van Heusen/ Haggar/Geoffrey Beene) and investment the rest of your money in something that will make you feel good.
Even though you may have withdrawn as counsel or left your former firm, you may still be getting served with e-notices for each filing (although "terminated" as referenced in Federal court). It is annoying indeed. From what I have seen, "terminated" lawyers file some sort of notice to be taken off of the service list. A good example could be probably found in the In re USA Commercial Mortgage Company docket in Federal Court. 2:07-cv-00892-RCJ-GWF
What is wrong with some of you on this site? Making comments about Tobiasson, using the n-word and calling people f@#$%#s? Really??? Are you THAT pathetic? Grow up and learn how to be decent and treat others with dignity. And for the record, I am a conservative and no fan of political correctness, but this dialogue is disgusting and wholly inappropriate.
@3:52 is right. Let's get back to calling each other whatever version of douche is your favorite and tone down the rest of the hateful language. Stop acting like asshats.
For an outstanding tailor, Expert Tailoring and Alterations is great. Expensive, but the work is outstanding.
Ironic and hypocritical that it's OK when commenters say offensive, inappropriate, and distasteful things about a specific person (e.g. Troy Fox, BK Hottie [we all know who it is], Lerner, H&S, Stan Walton, Cristalli, Saggese, Adam Stokes, Scott Holper, Steven Gibson, etc.) But now its suddenly inappropriate and distasteful as soon as someone says "faggot" and "queer" to a bunch of anonymous commenters that write detailed paragraphs about clothing.
Wow 2:52...are you also the 3:06 poster because you would think that you would be offended by 3:06's comments and be happy you were being backed up. If you are the same person...you need to check for a multiple personality disorder or bipolarism.
Wow 3:06. I thought I was the only troll on this blog. Welcome to the party. Let's ruin it for everyone. I may even break my promise not to mention double kickstands now that there are two of us.
You're nothing but a coward who hides behind the anonymous shield when we all know you are the dickless wonder who would cower if ever confronted face to face. So tuck your little tail between your legs and take your hateful spew somewhere else.
Back to the inquest process... whether Metro's actions were justified or not, this process is just bogus. Having a defense lawyer there to represent the family would not implicate the cops' Fifth Amendment rights. The inquest is not a trial, they aren't going to be adjudicated guilty of a crime no matter what. If the goal here is to find out the TRUTH, we all know cross-examination is the best way to get the truth out. Judge Abbatangelo is doing a great job with the questions, but why not allow a defense lawyer to serve that function? What is the difference from the DAs standpoint whether the judge asks them or a defense attorney asks them?
I will generally agree that for the professional on a budget, the best off the rack source is Jos. A. Bank, although increasingly there are reasonable made to measure opportunities. However I will take gentle exception to two suggestions made about said store.
First of all, while I generally agree that one should not use an in house tailor, when you are purchasing proprietary goods from a well known traditional merchant, e.g., Brooks Brothers, Nordstrom's, Jos. A. Bank, etc., the quality of work will be high and they will be intimately familiar with their own goods, esp. Brooks.
Secondly, I have steered new attorneys to the entry level suits at Jos. A. Bank for some time and while they aren't $1000 suits, neither are they $100 suits. They project a reliable and responsible image for a young professional and the quality is high enough not to have that sad and stiff Petit-bourgeois Sears Best look.
A few miscellaneous suggestions: Stick with traditional merchants and avoid fashionable brands, with the possible but not probable exception if you belong to the plaintiff bar. 3 button, not 2 button coats; they do a better job of keeping your shirt from peeking out between your waist and jacket. Suits not sport coats; stick to dark solid colors and notched lapels. Suits with peaked lapels and patterns make fine cocktail suits, but save those for dinner. Shoes should be Balmorals, not Derby's (ask your shoe merchant) and have leather soles only. Lace ups, not loafers. If you're heavier as I am, buy suiting separates or get made to measure; braces rather than belts also help and they're a nice accessory to boot. A business shirt is by definition only white or light blue, period, and button down collars aren't as sporty, but they say serious business professional more than a plain collar (save that also for after 5PM). Solid,dark over the calf socks (no one wants to see your hairy legs) in wool only (cotton will fade and lose the color).
Elle is right about Expert Tailors; those in Green Valley will also be pleased with Village East Cleaners & Alterations (2 locations); also very professional. It is VITALLY important that you know your correct sizes; visit the tailor and ask them to take your measurements and record them. Be sure to tip well.
I am an Allen Edmond and Brooks Brothers kind of guy, but I generally concur with the Ross advice. It is the 21st century, so pink shirts are okay on guys. Indeed, I like that color quite a bit. It gives me a softer, kinder look.
I have no idea what a woman should wear. They have so much more flexibility. I recently saw a prominent female attorney in a brooks or anne taylor summer outfit that was simply outstanding and vibrantly colorful. A guy can't even get away with a colorful tie. Shame.
5:28 PM: Thank you for the kind comments. I generally err on the cautious side since it's not MY career I'm fooling around with when I give this kind of advice.
Just a very few words about professional wardrobe for women. Anne Taylor is not the safe female version of Brooks Brothers it was thirty years ago. Actually if you want that, well, go to Brooks Brothers. Jos. A. Bank used to have a n excellent women's department, but it was so many decades ago I was thin and had dark hair.
I was asked several years ago during my annual Boyd lecture from one women about pants suits. While it's not the answer many want and I'm not crazy about giving it myself, I cannot recommend pants suits for women. In a business version it inevitably doesn't pass John Molloy's screening for projecting a successful upper middle class look. The only pants suits I've ever seen that had an upscale look were haute couture items that were very appropriate in terms of being elegant and upscale but completely inappropriate for business, like this Gucci number that still sticks in my mind; Champagne silk satin and about $2500. In other words a cocktail suit.
Please do not wear these very short women's suit jackets that flare just above the hips; they really are not flattering on any woman. The hem of your jacket could come to a point above the top of the knee a distance of 1/3 from the top of the knee to the natural waistline.
It's now verified....the atty's in LV suck, not because they went to Boyd, but because they spend too much time thinking that wearing a $1,000 suit makes them a $1,000 atty! Losers...........
Nothing better than a man in a suit that fits.....too many Vegas attorneys wear cheap suits that don't hold up for even the first cleaning. AND they seem to let seams come undone with no care to have them fixed. Shabby. Just shabby.
And the women...especially the defense bar, do not seem to get the difference between EFF ME shoes and professional shoes. Its as if they come to work barefoot and borrow their TRESPASSERS kicks.
Having spent a fair amount of my life in a court room, I'm surprised so many of my colleagues care about fashion. Don't get me wrong, I care, but most of the people in there look like garbage. The vast majority I would say. So, it is interesting to see that other attorneys give a rat's ass.
Happy Friday everyone!
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ReplyDeleteWhat judge do you preempt as a matter of course?
ReplyDeleteWill anyone else go down in the Medical Mafia investigation? Discuss.
ReplyDeleteWalsh
ReplyDeleteSusan Holland Johnson -- its cheaper than keeping up with her "donation" demands -- or her wrath that follows your failure to contribute
ReplyDelete1) Who cares that Erik Scott was on prescription medication that was legally provided to him by his doctor.
ReplyDelete2) The obese monstrosity that murdered Erik Scott(Mosher) clearly told him to draw his weapon when he said, "drop the firearm."
3) None of the witnesses who have testified so far would survive cross examination. Some barely seemed to make it through the softball questioning they did receive.
We need an adversarial process where a representative of the victims family can question the officers and witnesses. The inquest is a travesty, an innocent man is murdered and the killers get a paid vacation and continued employment.
Has the attorney for the Scott family placed his carrier on notice?
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, if you are a plaintiff:
ReplyDeletePreempt Cadish every time. Biased against Plaintiffs. An insurance company's dream. Will try to find a way to hurt your case if you are a plaintiff's attorney.
Isn't there a conflcit of interest with the Mayor being "of counsel" to the Goodman law firm who is going after Metro? Smells funny to me.
ReplyDeleteWalsh EVERY time.
ReplyDeleteWalsh's rversal rate is extremely low compared with the other Judges. So, maybe you all just lose in front of her.
ReplyDeleteIs it "attorneys fees" "attorney's fees" or attorneys' fees"
ReplyDeletein other words
Is it a term in and of itself, do you reference s' if multiple attys are on the case or on behalf of the firm, or do you use 's if there is only one attorney of record?
Don't feed the troll.
ReplyDeleteWithout directly debating whether the overall inquest process is good or bad, I will say that I think it is horrid that all of his medical information is coming out. There is a simple question: What did the cops think/believe at the time they shot him and what behavior by the victim occurred THAT DAY. The cops knew nothing about any prescriptions or depression and their decision to fire had NOTHING to do with it. I still want to hear the Costco employees voice on the 911 tape. I am still betting they took an innocuous situation and turned it into an over the top reaction because of their own lack of understanding of concealed carry and guns.
ReplyDeleteWhile we do need an adversarial process as a part of the inquest, I otherwise disagree with you. Here's why.
ReplyDelete1) state of mind.
2) we don't know if the weapon was drawn before or after the command to drop it
3) says who
4) your an ass.
Amen to Holland Johnson. I once heard a semi-prominent attorney ask her during a hearing on a motion "did you even go to law school." So true.
ReplyDeleteIt's cheaper to preempt her than to spend time and effort appealing her horrible rulings.
If we do end up going to a process that includes questioning by family members, at what point can the cops exercise their 5th amendment rights?
ReplyDeleteI'm with you, 9:07. Either he pointed an unholstered gun at the cops, or he didn't. End of story. All of the other stuff is character evidence that would never see the light of day in a normal, fair, process.
ReplyDeleteD. Smith
ReplyDelete@8:56. So we can't discuss the inquest on a legal blog. Why not? I think we can figure out who the nut jobs are, don't you?
ReplyDelete9:26. What if he pointed a holstered gun at the cops?
ReplyDeleteWalsch. Every time.
ReplyDeleteI have a serious question for young male attorneys who dress well. Where do you shop for suits and dress shirts? I need a couple of new suits and want to look good. I don't want to buy a cheap ass suit from Men's Warehouse, but also I am only a 2nd year associate so I can't afford the absolute best. I'm at one of the larger firms in town and need to look sharp for some day when I eventually get to actually go to court or something.
ReplyDeleteAt 9:50. Who the hell cares you pompous ass.
ReplyDelete9:50: jacobi's. Three suits, one special price.
ReplyDeleteJackie Glass. Stupid with an attitude.
ReplyDeleteIf he had a holstered weapon on his waistband, then how is he to comply with a command to "drop it" other than by pulling it from his waistband? I have no idea if that is what happened or not. I don't know if the police acted properly or improperly, nor am I a conspiracy theorist with regard to the surveillance equipment or anything else. My point is that all of the witnesses need to be called and subjected to vigorous cross-examination so that the jury can arrive at the truth, rather than just listening to a bunch of leading questions and softballs being thrown by the DA. If any of the officers want to take the 5th, then they have the same right to do that as any other citizen would.
ReplyDeleteWhy did my hyperlink to Colbert get deleted? http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-videos/360019/september-23-2010/oscar-goodman
ReplyDeleteDid I violate a WWL rule? Are there WWL rules?
The tapes played yesterday only reveled the command "Get on the ground"
ReplyDelete9:50 -- In ascending order of price/quality: Jos. A. Bank, as long as you buy the "Signature" line or better (good if you are fresh out of school and essentially need to buy an entire wardrobe all at once), a sale at Dillards, or the Neimann Marcus outlet store in Primm. A step up from that would be the half-yearly sale at Nordstrom.
ReplyDeleteOutlets like Off 5th for suits. Even Burlington Coat Factory is now carrying Armani and some "higher end" off-the-rack stuff.
ReplyDeleteShirts - I cycled through several different brands over the years and now I'm partial to Van Heusen for daily wear because they're comfortable enough, wrinkle and stain free and nearly indestructible. $20 a pop at the outlet downtown. When you spill on them, well, you're only out $20... Learned my lesson from ruining $80+ shirts with pens, steak grease, etc that it wasn't worth the hassle and risk.
Recuse - Walsh, Leavitt, Glass, Miley
ReplyDeleteSkip the inquest. It was designed with politics on the brain. Grand Jury, then a trial or not based on their decision.
ReplyDelete10:10. Tapes revealed he said drop the firearm or some such. Go back over the article. The way the RJ updates it is a bit ridiculous but it's there.
ReplyDeleteThe real issue is did he already have the gun in hand, holstered or not, when that command was given or did he grab it in response to the command.
@ 9:50
ReplyDeleteIf you are just starting out, the best decent quality suit for the price would be the Signature Gold suits at Jos A Banks (don't even mess with the two lower level suits they sell). About every 2-3 months they run a buy 1 get 2 free sale. The Signature Gold suit "normal" price is $995, so for a thousand bucks you get 3 decent quality suits.
As opposed to high end suit shops like Brooks Brothers, etc, Jos A Banks charges extra for tailoring. If you know a good tailor, you might want to consider skipping the tailoring at the store and have your own tailor do it for you.
Dress shirts, go outlet. Buy 100% cotton, DO NOT buy polyester blend. Find out what your face type is like so you know what you look best in, i.e. spread collar, pointed collar, etc. Strive for higher quality cotton and have your shirts professionally laundered. Develop a relationship with your cleaner and don't be afraid to point out if the pressing is bad or if buttons are broken by the cleaner after pressing. Stay away from button down shirts, they look too informal.
As your income increases (and your student loan balance decreases), begin to shop for higher quality suits and dress shirts as well as shoes. I have suits and shoes that are 10+ years old and still look great. As long as you take care of high quality clothing and shoes, they will last a long time. I tend to buy 2-3 suits per year minimum whether I "need" a new suit or not. You will quickly find that in 4 or 5 years you will have a closet full of suits.
Good luck.
For suits, look for half-canvassed at the minimum. Stay away from fused suits. They are typically junk. I've found good value on suits at TM Lewin and Charles Tyrwhitt (if you like an English cut suit). TM Lewin is great for shirts, too. Slim fit for that tailored look. A good tailor can make a suit. They are tough to find in Vegas.
ReplyDeletePediwear and Herring Shoes for good, English, handmade shoes. You want a calfskin shoe, no corrected grain crap. The exchange rate probably isn't as favorable with the pound as it once was. A year or two ago it was quite nice. For decent American shoes: Allen Edmonds or Alden (too clunky for my tastes).
Buying quality will pay off in the long run. Add an item as income allows. Black cap toe shoes are a must for a first pair of shoes. Solid charcoal gray or navy as a first or second suit. Expand from there.
Check out styleforum.net for some good info.
I second 9:50. On shirts, I have been buying mine at Jos. A. Bank for years. They seem to hold up quite well to professional laundering, and they look more expensive than they are. With the downturn in the economy, they seem to have a perpetual sale running as well.
ReplyDeleteI would tend to be cautious of certain "outlet" stores. For example, the Brooks Bros. outlets often carry a cheaper grade that is specifically for their "outlet" stores. Neimann's outlet in Primm is the real deal. Still expensive, but occasionally you find something really marked down.
@10:03
ReplyDeleteQuality lulz. Thanks.
No rules violated therein anon.
Although your second inquiry is an indirect violation of Rules 1 & 2.
You will receive an oversized bluetooth headset in the mail shortly, and Bluedouche Gibson will call from his oversized headset to inform you of the pending lawsuit.
I mean I second 10:47
ReplyDeleteIt's Friday and you're talking suits. Man you guys are gay. Go down to the Fruit Loop and gobble balls after your fashion discussion "boys". Now, to an important topic, is it me or is Tobiasson the spitting image of the naughty librarian in every pre-pubescent teen's masturbation fantasy. I keep waiting for her to whip off those glasses and "take me back in chambers"...
ReplyDeleteWait for the semi-annual sales at Brooks Brothers, Nordstrom, Saks, etc. You can usually get $1,000 suits for about $400.
ReplyDeleteI like the no-iron dress shirts from Brooks Brothers, 3 for $160. Throw them in the wash and take them out of the dryer while warm and they look great. Saves a ton to not have to take shirts to the cleaner.
And yes, don't buy suits or shirts at the Brooks Brothers outlet, it is not the same stuff as the main store. But you can get good deals on ties, cufflinks, etc. there.
9:50 - I'm a woman, but it was a similar challenge early on. I have found watching the Neiman Marcus website for sales, at least in the Women's suits you can find some spectacular deals in their sale pages.
ReplyDeleteAlso, for holidays, my family always knew that the best gift was a gift card to Dillard's or Nordstom. That way I could use that to help offset the cost of items. I also always started on the sale racks and then would hold out with my gift cards and strategically shop around major sales (half-yearly sale, etc.). That way I could end up with a couple suits and a couple pairs of shoes with an expenditure of $500 out of my pocket.
Another tip, set aside a fixed amount of money every month for clothes. That way, when you go to do your shopping you have the money up front to pay for the goods.
9:50 Another solution if your the creative type is to knit your own suits. $100 worth of yarn from Michael's and a little elbow grease and you can have a whole closet full of high quality suits AND ties. For shoes I recommend carving them out of wood or cutting up some old car tires into sandals.
ReplyDeleteDo not be fooled by a "Made in Italy" label. More and more these days, Italian suits are made from the same materials and by the relatives of the "Made in China" suits. From what I gather, it's causing some resentment among the older Italians (read: everyone but the Chinese immigrants), but it's something to watch out for.
ReplyDeleteI even had a shop owner straight up tell me that one rack of China suits was the same as their rack of Italy suits, but they put their own label on the Italy suits and doubled the price.
9:50: If you are going to buy and off the rack suit, make sure and take it to a real tailor for proper fitting. Stay away from the in-house tailor at the department stores or you end up looking like you practice in CD.
ReplyDeleteYarn shrinks to fit. Just shower in it once and then lay out in the sun. The odor will disipate.
ReplyDeleteYarn shrinks to fit. Just shower in it once and then lay out in the sun. The odor will disipate.
ReplyDeleteFor suits:
ReplyDeleteHugo Boss outlets and Ebay "Hugo Boss" (do not buy from Canada as there are a lot of counterfeits emanating from our northern neighbors)
For shirts:
Brooks Brothers outlet (get the wrinkle free)
If you go back East, try Syms (hit and miss)
Finally and most important, get a good tailor (must have an accent, preferably from Europe) Try Maria's Tailor on Decatur
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ReplyDeleteTobiasson saves that sexy move for her musclebound bailiff. There is something going on there.
Tobiasson has what I like to call the PBJL's.
ReplyDelete@12:52 That acronym is not in Black's. Please elaborate.
ReplyDeleteDoes anyone know the proper procedure for getting your name dissociated with cases you worked on at prior law firms? I keep hearing different things. Some people have suggested filing a motion to withdraw as counsel, but that doesn't really seem to fit the situation. The client will still be represented by my former law firm, I just don't work there anymore and don't want my name associated with the case.
ReplyDeleteIt has also been suggested to just file a notice of withdrawal.
Any ideas?
@1:06, you'll need to obtain the official file and use a black sharpie to obliterate all references to your name. The clerk's are always cools with it.
ReplyDeleteFile a Notice of Change of Address.
ReplyDelete@1:06. In federal court, you can file something called a notice of change of counsel (or similar). I filed it from the "inside" letting the court know that one of the people who had been working on the file left and I would be taking over. Seems like it would work the other way too. Call the clerk's office. They are very nice.
ReplyDeleteFor District Court I have told the courtroom clerks at check-in that so and so is no longer with our firm and they update the information. Seems also like that would work the other way.
Pouting BJ Lips
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of peremptory challenges and the inability to exercise them, Judge Sciscento is LOST in the civil arena currently. It is painful to watch and even more painful to be part of the circus.
ReplyDeleteRecommendations for tailoered made female business suits? What is the average shelf life of middle of the road female business suit? Thank you!
ReplyDelete@1:24 - are you crazy. Altering a file is against the law or do you bother reading the law. Second, all files are now electronic, how would you use a sharpie on them, blot out your name on the screen?
ReplyDeleteFor great suits and shirts (hell, the whole ensemble), go to Greg Chapman. http://www.gregchapman.com
ReplyDeleteWell, it's been a long week. I think I'll head over to Costco to see if I can get these water bottles to fit into a cooler or something. See everyone on Monday!
ReplyDeleteDuh, just file a motion to withdraw. Your name will be on the previous pleadings as it well should because you were in fact attorney of record and these are permanent files. Cannot do just a notice of withdrawal because the issue for why you were attorney is not concluded. Try reading the rules.
ReplyDelete@1:50 It was a J-O-K-E that I, personally, felt to be hilarious. Especially because the clerks are SOO not cool with it.
ReplyDeleteIf you don't like the way the Coroner's Inquest is run, don't blame the DA. Blame the legislature. Read NRS 259.050. Under subsection 3, the DA had the discretion all along to sweep this under the rug by certifying that no inquest was needed- but they didn't do that. They are putting the evidence out there, good and bad considering they played the tape of the defendant's girlfriend, so that tells me they are doing their job. If you want cross-examination and you want an adversarial process, get on the legislature to amend NRS 259.050 to require it.
ReplyDeleteI'm graduating next May (not from UNLV). I want to be a litigator in Vegas. Suggestions on tracking down my first job?
ReplyDelete1:53
ReplyDeleteThose bottles will fit in your cooler better if you swallow a bottle of hydrocodone first. In any case the bullets will hurt less if you happen to get shot.
Really bad lawyering by the Family's attorney. Had he just shut up from the beginning, none of the meds would have come out. But, he backed Metro into a corner.
ReplyDeleteReal nice touch is that girlfriend will now have a problem with Rx pads. Good job!
Who is representing the family--Belushi?
@2:10,
ReplyDeleteHAHAHAHAHAHA. Oh, were you serious? Were you just planning to move here with no prior connections and no job prospects in the hope that a $100k cushy job would magically appear for you?
Carpetbagger.
2:37,
ReplyDeleteNope. Just looking for an opportunity to work hard so I can pay my loans and rent.
I've got a couple of connections, but any additional suggestions are appreciated.
2:10
What the hell is up with all the fags taking over this site today? Suits, shirts, shoes, ties! WTF you queers!
ReplyDeleteHere's the answer: Become a solo practitioner like me, sleep in everyday, bang your wife every morning after the kids go to school, and then wear flip flops, shorts, and a Tommy Bahama shirt to work each day. Keep a sports jacket and a couple of white shirts, slacks, and ties in the office for when you have court hearings.
@2:10/2:41,
ReplyDeleteIf you have connections, work them to the bone. If you don't, choose another state. Seriously. The legal unemployment rate is sky high in Las Vegas right now and any advantages to Las Vegas are outweighed by the fact that you will probably not get a job unless you come here with an offer.
Just my $0.02.
For tailor made suits go to Thailand. They do a great job and are really cheap. But don't go for the $100 places. You should be able to get three suits, three tailor made shirts, and three ties for $1000 at one of the top places.
ReplyDeleteI liked the Chinese Taylor. But Raja is also supposed to be very good. Bobby Neru (sp?) is also top quality.
You'll get $1500-2000 quality suits for $1,000, with shirts and ties. Their ties weren't so stylish. So the money you save pays for the trip. Spend two days in Bangkok to get the first and second fitting, then hit the beach, and come back early on the day you fly out to pick up the suit.
Chinese Taylor met me at the aiport hotel the night before I flew out.
2:52
ReplyDeletePlease hire me!
Thanks,
2:10
Is Marquis & Aurbach still hiring?
ReplyDelete2:52 - Listen up dickless wonder. Any chance you're a spic or nip? Maybe even a nigger. Go back to where you came from.
ReplyDelete@2:52:
ReplyDeleteI just banged her a few times after you left. By the way, love the shorts and flip flops I am wearing on your patio watching your kids call me uncle as I bounce them on my knee
@2:54,
ReplyDeleteThanks. I realize that there is no chance without an offer in advance, which is why I am starting now and using every angle I can come up with.
I have found the attorneys in Vegas I have spoken with to be very gracious and helpful.
2:10
As a general rule for men's clothing, it's all about the quality of the material. Shitty material looks shitty. Here's what you do...
ReplyDelete1. Always be on the lookout for shirts and suits that are made from good material and that are in your general size.
2. Find a good tailor. I use George at 257-6299. He takes off to his homeland of Greece wach September so he should be back soon.
3. Have the tailor alter the shirt or suit to fit you. I am not just talking about the length of the sleeves or hemming the trousers, have him fit the torso and slim the pants and the arms. Also, make sure he takes up the shirt's armholes.
4. Rock in style.
As far as places to purchase said clothes, it's all relative. I used to get Hugo Boss suits from the outlet or Off 5th but they were extremely boxy and quality was marginal. Now I look to Hickey Freeman or Z Zenga suits which you can get on sale for around $700. They will still need about $200 worth of alterations but once done they will look bespoke.
And to that point, any off the rack suit will need such alterations. Even Ermengildo Zegna suits at Neimans have lower arm holes and bodier builds - they manufacture for the masses, not you. So unless you're buying Tom Ford suits or having bespoke suits made, look for suits made from a good material and alter to look like a million bucks.
Sometimes the discourse on this thread gets uncomfortably aggressive and crude. Is Glen Lerner's crew in the house?
ReplyDeleteUnless you are a clothes horse, the suggestions above involve spending way more money than many people really care to spend. If you feel 10x better in a $1000 suit than you would feel in a $100 suit, then by all means hit Neimans or Bernini or have Suitcase Murphy (Tom LeShan from Tom James) deck you out. If you think you might have a better investment for the other $900, then get a serviceable suit from the other outlets (Van Heusen/ Haggar/Geoffrey Beene) and investment the rest of your money in something that will make you feel good.
ReplyDelete@2:07 Wanna bet the D.A's office with Metro's help drafted the procedure for Coroner's Inquests?
ReplyDeleteEven though you may have withdrawn as counsel or left your former firm, you may still be getting served with e-notices for each filing (although "terminated" as referenced in Federal court). It is annoying indeed. From what I have seen, "terminated" lawyers file some sort of notice to be taken off of the service list. A good example could be probably found in the In re USA Commercial Mortgage Company docket in Federal Court. 2:07-cv-00892-RCJ-GWF
ReplyDeleteI don't appreciate seeing the word "nigger." If you must go that route use something innocuous like faggot.
ReplyDelete3:06 may have just replaced Gibson as being the biggest douche!
ReplyDelete@ 12:46 Are you suggesting more than the bailiff foot rub, because I think that's part of the job requirement.
ReplyDeleteWhat is wrong with some of you on this site? Making comments about Tobiasson, using the n-word and calling people f@#$%#s? Really??? Are you THAT pathetic? Grow up and learn how to be decent and treat others with dignity. And for the record, I am a conservative and no fan of political correctness, but this dialogue is disgusting and wholly inappropriate.
ReplyDeleteI moved here from out of state years ago and didn't know a soul. I went to work at ATMS and I turned out fine. So will you. I hear they're hiring.
ReplyDeleteYup, maybe WWL needs to start removing comments that completely cross the line.
ReplyDelete@3:38 - You're an uppity nigger aren't you?
ReplyDelete@3:52, Agree the slurs are inappropriate and the product of low intelligence, but gossip about a judge having an affair is what this blog is about.
ReplyDeleteThat does it for me. Check please.
ReplyDeleteNobody asks for the check when a jackass uses faggot. The line is apparently not crossed until the n word is used.
ReplyDelete@3:52 is right. Let's get back to calling each other whatever version of douche is your favorite and tone down the rest of the hateful language. Stop acting like asshats.
ReplyDeleteFor an outstanding tailor, Expert Tailoring and Alterations is great. Expensive, but the work is outstanding.
Whoa, whoa, EW, 3:52's right about judge gossip? Check please.
ReplyDelete@3:20, 3:52, 3:56, 4:14, and Elle Woods
ReplyDeleteIronic and hypocritical that it's OK when commenters say offensive, inappropriate, and distasteful things about a specific person (e.g. Troy Fox, BK Hottie [we all know who it is], Lerner, H&S, Stan Walton, Cristalli, Saggese, Adam Stokes, Scott Holper, Steven Gibson, etc.) But now its suddenly inappropriate and distasteful as soon as someone says "faggot" and "queer" to a bunch of anonymous commenters that write detailed paragraphs about clothing.
Get off you high horses!
-2:52
Yes. It's not appropriate. I think that's why everyone wants you to get a clue.
ReplyDeleteWow 2:52...are you also the 3:06 poster because you would think that you would be offended by 3:06's comments and be happy you were being backed up. If you are the same person...you need to check for a multiple personality disorder or bipolarism.
ReplyDeleteYeah Elle woods. I'll give you something hurtful! That pink hat looks CHEAP! And so does your dress. . . Walmart shopper!!!!
ReplyDeleteWow 3:06. I thought I was the only troll on this blog. Welcome to the party. Let's ruin it for everyone. I may even break my promise not to mention double kickstands now that there are two of us.
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ReplyDelete@3:06 and 3:59,
ReplyDeleteYou're nothing but a coward who hides behind the anonymous shield when we all know you are the dickless wonder who would cower if ever confronted face to face. So tuck your little tail between your legs and take your hateful spew somewhere else.
FAGGOT!
ReplyDelete4:52,
ReplyDeleteI'm not 3:06.
-2:52
Back to the inquest process... whether Metro's actions were justified or not, this process is just bogus. Having a defense lawyer there to represent the family would not implicate the cops' Fifth Amendment rights. The inquest is not a trial, they aren't going to be adjudicated guilty of a crime no matter what. If the goal here is to find out the TRUTH, we all know cross-examination is the best way to get the truth out. Judge Abbatangelo is doing a great job with the questions, but why not allow a defense lawyer to serve that function? What is the difference from the DAs standpoint whether the judge asks them or a defense attorney asks them?
ReplyDeleteWhat I wouldn't give to watch Joe Abood cross Officer Butterbean Mosher
ReplyDeleteCan we all just get along?
ReplyDeleteHi honey, I'm home! What happened on the blog today?
ReplyDeleteFound out you're a faggot that's what!
ReplyDeleteSo many judges, so few (one!) preempts.
ReplyDeleteRegarding Professional Wardrobe:
ReplyDeleteI will generally agree that for the professional on a budget, the best off the rack source is Jos. A. Bank, although increasingly there are reasonable made to measure opportunities. However I will take gentle exception to two suggestions made about said store.
First of all, while I generally agree that one should not use an in house tailor, when you are purchasing proprietary goods from a well known traditional merchant, e.g., Brooks Brothers, Nordstrom's, Jos. A. Bank, etc., the quality of work will be high and they will be intimately familiar with their own goods, esp. Brooks.
Secondly, I have steered new attorneys to the entry level suits at Jos. A. Bank for some time and while they aren't $1000 suits, neither are they $100 suits. They project a reliable and responsible image for a young professional and the quality is high enough not to have that sad and stiff Petit-bourgeois Sears Best look.
A few miscellaneous suggestions: Stick with traditional merchants and avoid fashionable brands, with the possible but not probable exception if you belong to the plaintiff bar. 3 button, not 2 button coats; they do a better job of keeping your shirt from peeking out between your waist and jacket. Suits not sport coats; stick to dark solid colors and notched lapels. Suits with peaked lapels and patterns make fine cocktail suits, but save those for dinner. Shoes should be Balmorals, not Derby's (ask your shoe merchant) and have leather soles only. Lace ups, not loafers. If you're heavier as I am, buy suiting separates or get made to measure; braces rather than belts also help and they're a nice accessory to boot. A business shirt is by definition only white or light blue, period, and button down collars aren't as sporty, but they say serious business professional more than a plain collar (save that also for after 5PM). Solid,dark over the calf socks (no one wants to see your hairy legs) in wool only (cotton will fade and lose the color).
Elle is right about Expert Tailors; those in Green Valley will also be pleased with Village East Cleaners & Alterations (2 locations); also very professional. It is VITALLY important that you know your correct sizes; visit the tailor and ask them to take your measurements and record them. Be sure to tip well.
I am an Allen Edmond and Brooks Brothers kind of guy, but I generally concur with the Ross advice. It is the 21st century, so pink shirts are okay on guys. Indeed, I like that color quite a bit. It gives me a softer, kinder look.
ReplyDeleteI have no idea what a woman should wear. They have so much more flexibility. I recently saw a prominent female attorney in a brooks or anne taylor summer outfit that was simply outstanding and vibrantly colorful. A guy can't even get away with a colorful tie. Shame.
5:28 PM: Thank you for the kind comments. I generally err on the cautious side since it's not MY career I'm fooling around with when I give this kind of advice.
ReplyDeleteJust a very few words about professional wardrobe for women. Anne Taylor is not the safe female version of Brooks Brothers it was thirty years ago. Actually if you want that, well, go to Brooks Brothers. Jos. A. Bank used to have a n excellent women's department, but it was so many decades ago I was thin and had dark hair.
I was asked several years ago during my annual Boyd lecture from one women about pants suits. While it's not the answer many want and I'm not crazy about giving it myself, I cannot recommend pants suits for women. In a business version it inevitably doesn't pass John Molloy's screening for projecting a successful upper middle class look. The only pants suits I've ever seen that had an upscale look were haute couture items that were very appropriate in terms of being elegant and upscale but completely inappropriate for business, like this Gucci number that still sticks in my mind; Champagne silk satin and about $2500. In other words a cocktail suit.
Please do not wear these very short women's suit jackets that flare just above the hips; they really are not flattering on any woman. The hem of your jacket could come to a point above the top of the knee a distance of 1/3 from the top of the knee to the natural waistline.
It's now verified....the atty's in LV suck, not because they went to Boyd, but because they spend too much time thinking that wearing a $1,000 suit makes them a $1,000 atty! Losers...........
ReplyDeleteFirst impressions count, so you do need a nice suit. People that don't think you do are blinded by their small paychecks.
ReplyDeleteNothing better than a man in a suit that fits.....too many Vegas attorneys wear cheap suits that don't hold up for even the first cleaning. AND they seem to let seams come undone with no care to have them fixed. Shabby. Just shabby.
ReplyDeleteAnd the women...especially the defense bar, do not seem to get the difference between EFF ME shoes and professional shoes. Its as if they come to work barefoot and borrow their TRESPASSERS kicks.
Having spent a fair amount of my life in a court room, I'm surprised so many of my colleagues care about fashion. Don't get me wrong, I care, but most of the people in there look like garbage. The vast majority I would say. So, it is interesting to see that other attorneys give a rat's ass.
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