Thursday, September 16, 2010

Lerner Complaint

Here is a copy of the Heavy Hitter Firm Complaint everyone has been talking about. Take .2 and give it a read.

(Thanks, tipster!)

UPDATE:

Thanks to Anon 8:54PM, we have pictures of the event. Could these be the young ladies mentioned in the complaint?

88 comments:

  1. It's a fabulous complaint against Lund. And the claims against Lerner individually and the firm will be quickly dismissed.

    Lund never really struck me as a tough guy. He's not a very good lawyer and he's kind of a dork. Sort of chubby, sort of goofy, sort of soft and white. Who knew that alcohol could give a chump like him so much courage? And by the way, isn't he supposedly LDS?

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  2. the "powerful belly bump" part is hilarious.

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  3. Lerner is wanna be thug.

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  4. Lund is a putz. He never would hit the guy without the other idiots in his group egging him on...

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  5. Can anyon confirm that Lund is Mormon?

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  6. Drunken Lawyer is redundant.....

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  7. Like Mormons are exempt from bad behavior? What if he were Catholic....it would be EXPECTED!

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  8. Just because you're "mormon" doesn't mean you are a devout follower of the religion. Sounds like he may be mormon in name only with that type of behavior. The most offensive part is not punching the victim, but the vulgar way they talked to the pole position workers. Real class act - wouldn't expect any better from Glen Lerner's office.

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  9. The negligence claims are ridiculous at best.

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  10. Lund = über-douche!

    Apologies to Gibson for re-purposing his monicker. Don't sue me!

    Question: Will State Bar follow through and actually impose a sanction against Lund?

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  11. For interrogating the employees of a represented party, Lund et all should be disbarred. GO GET 'EM ROB BARE!!!! Oh.Never mind.

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  12. this posting is useless without photos

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  13. 9:48: JACK


    Any LDS members on this board know where the term "Jack Mormon" comes from??

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  14. Lund possibily a "jack" mormon. Paul Powell was a mormon when he went to Lerner from LSC. After Lerner, he became "jack" mormon.

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  15. Not sure where "Jack" came from. Just means you don't go to church, don't pay tithe, etc.

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  16. Lund got attacked because he has a lawsuit against Pole Position - and you guys want him disbarred? Un-f......-believable! No attorney is going to "interrogate" a party at a golf tournament - the case is in discovery - he can just depose them! You're all sheep for believing anything in that article or lawsuit. BAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaa.

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  17. according to wiki, the oracle of half truths (so who knows?)

    "The term Jack Mormon is a slang term originating in nineteenth century America. It was originally used to describe a person who was not a baptized member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (or LDS Church), but who was friendly to Church members and Mormonism, sympathized with them, and/or took an active interest in their belief system. Sometime in the early to mid twentieth century, however, the term began to refer to an individual deemed by LDS adherents to be an inactive or lapsed member of the LDS Church who, despite his personal religious viewpoint, maintained good relations with and positive feelings toward the LDS church."

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  18. @10:18

    I assume you were there for the incident. So was Lund intoxicated? I think that is what everyone wants to know since he is LDS (BYU grad).

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  19. 10:18 definitely worried about his reputation working for Lerner

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  20. @10:25 Anyone working for Lerner abandoned any sense of reputation a long time ago

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  21. Jack Mormon = wide range of lapsed Mormons with varying feelings toward the church. Often times a Jack Mormon simply hasn't gotten around to requesting his/her records be removed from the church. Others are just like most religious people in this country, not particularly devout, but if questioned regarding religion would default to Mormonism because they were baptized and/or raised Mormon.

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  22. so in responding to allegation no. 19. "Upon being refused permission to lick the females’ rear ends…” do you admit or deny...

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  23. the part that digusts me is that this gofl tourney was for candlelighters which supports kids with cancer. I know, I know, there were strippers there and alcohol....so hitting on some barely legal teens followed by a parking lot brawl seems inevitable....but it is still a little bit disturbing

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  24. @10:18. You assume Lund is ethical and smart. Drunk people do stupid stuff like ask to lick the asses of nubile females who work for party opponants. Like to see that question in a depo transcript. having hd Lerner attorneys on teh other side of my v., they are all covered in butter they are so slimey. Lund was attacked? nice spin. He did the punching and it is at the end of his closed fist there now exist over 25k in med bills. TREBLE DAMAGES, BABY!

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  25. @8:41 AM

    Do you really think the "claims against Lerner individually and the firm will be quickly dismissed"?

    I don't think any claim in Nevada is "quickly dismissed," no matter how frivolous.

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  26. lick a rear end for cancer!

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  27. stole this....but love this:

    Is your lawyer a wreck? Do a check! Call the Nevada State Bar!

    although with a state bar as inadequate as ours....it probably won't do any good!

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  28. Poor Ben. I admire Andre for pursuing justice for his client, but I also feel bad for Ben. He's a decent guy. Any of us could have stood in his shoes after 20 beers and the sight of some young lasses.

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  29. It's a good thing that the intoxicated Ben could make a hasty get away in his car.

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  30. Anybody know if there will be criminal charges?

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  31. it's under police investigation..

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  32. So, Ben's a decent guy who harrassed young employees of an entity he is suing without their lawyer present, hit some guy hard enough to break bones, left the scene of the crime only to drive drunk endangering an entire city. Nah, I'm not buying it.

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  33. You guys will believe anything you read. Kinda funny. And does it really matter what religion that Ben is??? Who cares. As many of you know (or maybe you wanna-be lawyers dont know) --- anyone can file a lawsuit. Frivolous suits happen all the time. If the DA doesnt pursue, you can bet its just an attempt at getting some cash over a fight. Do you ever read complaints against your clients where its clear that none of the events happened the way the complaint portrayed the events? Maybe the guy insulted his wife. Maybe he said something about his mother. Maybe the other guy was drunk and was egging on the fight. Get back to work and bill some hours. Quit wasting your time speculating on nonsense.

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  34. 1:30 PM sounded like a Glen Lerner employee, but he actually formed complete sentences.

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  35. On the other hand, he seems to be aware of the number of frivolous cases filed...

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  36. Lund was a lawyer and a Mormon

    His temper when drunk was a stormin

    He face punched a guy, and injured his eye

    But the belly bump made me adore him!

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  37. Why does it matter if he is Mormon? Because every friggin Mormon in this town, right down to THE TOURSITS STINK Harry Reid seems to want you to believe they are better than the rest becuse they get to be god's someday and you don't. Because they act as though they are above such human behavior and because they rarely admit they aer jsut as flawed as teh rest of mankind. But lookie here, drunk on spirits, lusting after a child. (Perhaps a Harkening back to the equally retrobate founder of their church.)

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  38. "Retrobate?" 1:55 pm is obviously reparded.

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  39. Why is "Harkening" capitalized? Your errors completely discredit your otherwise sound logical reasoning.

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  40. It appears that Lund thought he was talking to stipper. C'mon... Hayli the Pole Position employee... I think it was just a simple case of mistaken identity.

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  41. Then look beyond the typos and think. It is amazing here how so many people who cannot argue simply resort to ranting about typos on a blog. Typos are hardly what discredits a person in these types of forums, what does is trying to make that arguement stick.

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  42. Must be a bunch of civil attorneys proofing and reproofing and reproofing their posts to maximize billing.

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  43. @2:22 nice argument and punctuation.

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  44. @2:22 nice argument and punctuation.

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  45. Mormons are insane. Just another cult. Waiting for the grape kool-aid day.

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  46. All religion is insane - just different flavors of the same Kool-Aid

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  47. Seriously, why is it that every post devolves to the point where the Mormon-haters ooze out of the pavement cracks to tell the world the great secret that only they know about Mormons, and if only everyone else knew, then the Mormons would be stripped of their civil rights because, after all, they're a retrobate "cult?"

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  48. The little boys working the golf event were really fortunate that Lund was a drunk mormon. If Lund was a drunk catholic he would have asked to lick the boys' rear ends...

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  49. YEAH! Catholic bashing.

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  50. The mormons deserve what they get. That holier-than-thou shit has a way of coming back to bite them in the ass, especially when a one of them openly jacks off in his magic underpants.

    By the way, I'm an ex-mormon.

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  51. 'Retrobate' isn't an official word, but it is used as a slang term. It is used to describe someone who is stuck in the past.

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  52. "The term 'Jack Mormon' was used by author Edward Abbey in his novel The Monkey Wrench Gang to describe a character, Seldom Seen Smith, who was a Mormon and had many wives, but was not active in the LDS Church nor its belief system."

    Please don't sue me, Wikipedia.

    I don't have the exact quote, but Abbey's definition went something like "a Jack Mormon is to a true-believing Mormon what a jack rabbit is to a cottontail."

    For what it's worth.

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  53. thank you Mr. Urban Dictionary

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  54. "Thank you mr. urban dictionary" was meant for 3:22

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  55. All this led me to check out Lerner's website - definitely worth the time to read the atty profiles. Sounds like most were recruited by the mob.

    My favorite gem, though, is from Lerner himself: "Glen has worked odd jobs throughout his life including being a Teamster and a garbage man to better understand many of the people he would someday represent"

    More like to better understand who he was sending money back home to.

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  56. If anyone actually read the complaint, they would see that it does not allege that Lund was drunk and none of the comments about ass-licking or money for kisses are attributed to him. I thought attorneys paid attention to details?

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  57. @3:44....BUZZ KILL!

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  58. I guess hurling the Daddy Issue question, laying in wait outside the door and telling the "motherfucker" to hit him does not count against the sterling example of a Mormon. All of that IS alleged in the complaint.

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  59. "Retrobate" appears to refer to the act of sexually gratifying one's self while recalling erotic images of yesteryear.

    .30

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  60. re 4:05, i though retrobate referred to fishing with an outdated lure.

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  61. 2:22 - Rather than sniveling about how other should "look beyond typos and think" perhaps you should look at the keyboard and realize "retrobate" was not a typo. It was an attempt by someone to use a word they do not know how to spell. That is mockable. Attorneys should know better.

    And for what it's worth, if you really think anyone's got that big an issue with typos, you're missing the point. To wit: the whole "you should ignore my atrocious grammar, punctuation and spelling and focus instead on my brilliant legal analysis" attitude too many of the attorneys in this town have is pathetic.

    Said attorneys (by and large- there are some exceptions) would do well to disabuse themselves of that mindset. They're not the monstrous legal intellects they beleive themselves to be and their collective inability to properly express their thoughts in writing (here or in pleadings) just clues everyone in to the fact they're lazy and/or stupid.

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  62. And I misspelled "believe." yeah, I get it.

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  63. Here's a real ethical reporter! Writes an article alleging things that are not even in the complaint, then states this about his own article - Unbelievable!!!

    By popular demand here’s a copy Walsh v. Lerner (pdf), but don’t let the capture fool you. The real defendant in this case is Lerner associate Ben Lund. Ultimately, this case will wend its way through a courtroom or two. Until then, we don’t really know what happened that day at Siena Golf Club.

    - Doug McMurdo

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  64. @4:37 - as you did not pick up on your typo until after posting your tirade, are you lazy or stupid?

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  65. Reading these comments reminds me of how ignorant the general population is. Has it ever crossed anyones mind that the las vegas review journal may not always report the truth?

    Use common sense people! Why would a plaintiffs attorney start a fight with with a defendant ?

    Some facts:

    Glen Lerner and Associates sued the review journal for a case involving a drunk RJ employee that run over and killed a young girl. I wonder if this is why it made the front page?

    This "Charity Event" was a golf tournament sponsored by Ricks Cabaret, Im sure that the promo girls wearing almost no clothes where innocent little angels!

    And read carefully my friends, nowhere does it state that Lund was intoxicated!

    Hmmm, could it be that Pole Position (that is being sued by Glen Lerner and Associates) had some employees and employee friends at this event that were a bit bitter at the fact that the attorneys that were suing them were enjoying a nice day out golfing at an event thy co-sponsored?

    Maybe the Review Journal jumped the gun and published a story based mostly on fiction to portray the law firm that stood up against them as "the bad guys".

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  66. Turns out witnesses say that the Glen Lerner attorneys were targeted and that Lund was acting in self defense

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  67. 2:24 "Proof and polish" my friend.

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  68. On the rear-end licking allegation, does anyone know if it means he was wanting to lick the butt cheek or lick right down the crack from the small of the back to the taint?

    I see a motion for more definite statement coming down the pike.

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  69. First Affirmative Defense

    Plaintiff's complaint fails to state a taint upon which his lips can be planted.

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  70. @ 4:57....I doubt that there is some large hidden conspiracy on the part of the review journal. Sure maybe the journal was pissed off and put it on the front page and skewed and took the best and most incriminating parts of the complaint...but lets be realistic...every person in Nevada knows who glen lerner is, this is a story that RJ would've published regardless. Also, when does the RJ not skew and put the most incriminating parts in a story?

    Additionally, the golf tournament was put on by candlelighters, a foundation that raises money for kids with cancer. Companies can purchase booths/tables and compete. Ricks Cabernet was not hosting the event, they, along with many many other companies were sponsoring it.

    As far as "sponsoring" do you have any idea how many different companies sponsored that event? You make it sound like glen lerner and poles were the only two sponsors.

    And for the record, I can completely see a drunk plaintiff's attornies going up to some hot young chics and bragging about how their company was being sued by them.

    And you're right it doesn't say that Lund was drunk, why does it matter?

    Lastly, nothing is nearly as one sided as it appears. I'm sure this "Plaintiff" wasn't as innocent as he claims...but the fact remains, he has injuries and there is no report of lund having any...

    (oh and if there are any typos, it is 6pm, and I am both lazy and stupid)

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  71. and yes, I still think attorneys should be spelt like attornies

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  72. @ 5:53 from 4:57:

    If you read carefully I do state that the event was just sponsored by Ricks Cabaret. Ricks Cabaret was also the main radio commercial sponsor on X 107.5 for this golf tournament...... and the name of this golf tournament? balls on the green! Classy, don't you think? just visit ricks cabaret and enjoy pictures of what goes on at this event. I know very well how many different sponsors there where at this event, I was there! the theme? Girls dressed inappropriately and giving away free drinks!

    Some more food for thought:

    Why would an experienced attorney need to interrogate these young girls? Do you really think that they had any idea about or insight regarding this case? Yes, I can see an attorney telling them that he is suing them, but interrogating? oh please.

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  73. Pole position gold digging?

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  74. Lol.... Are these the poor girls that were harassed?

    http://www.ricks.com/club/album.aspx?id=1010

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  75. This was all a big misunderstanding from the start. I didn't ask Hayli if she had "daddy issues." I asked her if she had "any tissues." My sinuses were acting up and it probably was a bit unclear.

    When I said "go ahead and hit me, motherfucker" I was just telling an amusing story about a recent experience playing blackjack.

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  76. Lagomarsino = dipshit

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  77. The day all this went down was a Friday. I guess he was lying when he asked me to reschedule the depo because he had to go to a mediation unexpectedly.

    The Fearsome Foursome better not be making any requests for extensions to answer discovery or oppose motions.

    Get back to work, fools!

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  78. http://x1075lasvegas.radio.com/2010/06/14/what-happens-when-your-balls-turn-green/#photo-1

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  79. I got some HORSES MOUTH testimony too. EYEBALL witnesses to EYEBALL punching. Seems the RJ got it right for the most part.

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  80. Of course they did... It would be impossible for the RJ to write something based on lies

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  81. Second Affirmative Defense

    Plaintiff has failed to lick the taint of his damn agents.

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  82. A guy (who i guess is the owner of Pole Position) was being aggressive toward a group of guys sitting at a table. The guys at the table didnt respond but the guy kept being aggressive. I heard him say, "see you outside." As the awards ended the Lerner employees left and immediately the Pole Position table got up and followed them. They were clearly intending to continue a confrontation. After reading the actual suit (which is ridiculous) it makes me sad that a guy who clearly was being bullied (as there were five guys that followed two guys out), defended himself and now is paying the price. I would have done the same thing!

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  83. No one is gonna believe that shit! 8:30 pm's version is a lot more plausible.

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  84. GLEN LERNER AND HIS "INJURY" ATTORNEYS DECEIVE, LIE, EXTORT AND FORGE - TRUE EXPERIENCE I NEED HELP NOW! IF GLEN LERNER HAS INTEGRITY HE WILL REMOVE THAT FALSIFIED LIEN OR I WILL SUE HIM AND HIS ATTORNEYS FOR MAL PRACTICE AND FORGERY, PLUS EXTORTION!!!

    OCTOBER 31,2013

    RE: GLEN LERNER, JUSTIN RANDALL, SCOTT GUIDO, ATTORNEYS

    UPDATE: JUSTIN RANDALL, SCOTT GUIDO, GLEN LERNER AND THE SO CALLED “INVESTIGATOR” SCOTT SHIPPEE, STILL HAVE MY INSURANCE SETTLEMENT WITH A LIEN ON IT.

    SCOTT SHIPPEE WAS SENT TO ME AT “NO CHARGE” TO TAKE MY INFORMATION ABOUT MY ACCIDENT. SCOTT SHIPPEE TOLD ME “YOU HAVE TO SIGN THESE PAPERS TO “GIVE” ME PERMISSION TO TAKE THIS INFORMATION BACK TO THE ATTORNEY AT THE OFFICE. “DON’T WORRY, YOU WILL NOT HAVE AN ATTORNEY UNTIL THE ATTORNEY CALLS YOU INTO THE OFFICE AND EXPLAINS THESE PAPERS, THE PROCEDURES, POLICY AND ASKS ABOUT YOUR ACCIDENT. JUST INITIAL HERE, SIGN HERE AND DON’T WORRY”.

    WELL, THAT WAS SEPTEMBER 10, 2012 AND NO ATTORNEY EVER CALLED ME. EVER! I KEPT CALLING TO SPEAK TO MR. LERNER BUT HE WAS ALWAYS “UNAVAILABLE, OUT OF THE CITY ETC.”

    FINALLY IN MARCH, 2013 I WAS GOING TOTALLY BROKE…CANNOT WORK, SICK AND ABOUT TO LOSE MY FURNITURE IN STORAGE, ETC. I CALLED TO ASK TO BORROW MONEY AGAINST MY CASE…, I HAD NOT SPOKEN TO ANY ATTORNEY, SO I REALLY DIDN’T HAVE A “CASE”.

    WHAT I DID NOT KNOW AND DID NOT FIND OUT UNTIL ABOUT SEPTEMBER, 2013, WHEN I WENT TO THE DOCTOR IS THAT “SOMEONE IN GLEN LERNER’S OFFICE “FORGED” MY SIGNATURE ON A POWER OF ATTORNEY AND THEY CREATED THEIR OWN FILE WITH MY INFORMATION. THEY SENT THAT POWER OF ATTORNEY TO MY DOCTORS. (I HAD CALLED THE CASEWORKER WHEN I ASKED FOR THE ATTORNEY THAT I FOUND A GOOD DOCTOR AND GAVE HIM HIS NAME) I CALLED AND TOLD THE CASE WORKER, WHO ALWAYS TOLD ME “DON’T WORRY, YOU WILL HAVE AN ATTORNEY SOON. HE WILL CALL YOU”. BUT HE NEVER DID!

    THAT NOTARIZED “FORGED” SIGNATURE WAS SENT TO MY DOCTORS AND ALL THE NAMES I HAD GIVEN TO THE “INVESTIGATOR”. THEN WHEN I TOLD THEM I WAS GOING TO FIND AN ATTORNEY OR CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY MYSELF, I RECEIVE A PHONE CALL FROM “JUSTIN RANDALL,” WHO WAS ASSIGNED MY CASE. HE REFUSED TO MEET ME, TO TALK TO ME “UNTIL HE GOT AN OFFER FROM THE INSURANCE COMPANY”. I TOLD HIM “NO”, I WANT TO MEET YOU FIRST. HE WOULD NOT MEET WITH ME.

    AGAINST MY TELLING HIM NOT TO CALL THE INSURANCE COMPANY, HE CALLED THEM! THEN HE CALLED ME AND OFFERED ME $1000.00 AND THE REST OF THE MONEY WOULD BE PAID FOR THE MEDICAL BILLS AND THE ATTORNEY, WHO I NEVER MET OR HAD SPOKEN TO.

    THIS REALLY MADE ME ANGRY AND I TOLD HIM I WOULD NOT HAVE AN ATTORNEY THAT I DID NOT KNOW AND HAD NOT MET WITH ME. JUSTIN RANDALL TOLD ME AGAIN “I REFUSE TO MEET YOU UNTIL I GET AN OFFER.” I SAID TO HIM “HOW CAN YOU ASK FOR MONEY FOR ME WHEN YOU DON’T KNOW THE EXTENT OF MY INJURIES, MY LIFESTYLE, MY HEALTH OR ANYTHING ABOUT ME”? HE REPLIED, “IT IS MY JOB TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH YOUR CASE IS WORTH”? I SAID TO HIM, “NO, YOU ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO DETERMINE HOW MUCH MY LIFE IS WORTH, MY HEALTH AND OR MY BODY”. HE HUNG UP. LATER AGAIN, WITHOUT MEETING ME, HE CALLED BACK AND OFFERED ME $2,000. AND SAID “YOU CAN CALL THE PRACTITIONERS AND ASK THEM TO REDUCE YOUR FEES AND MAYBE YOU WILL END UP WITH $6,000.” AGAIN, I REFUSED!

    ON APRIL 2, 2013, JUSTIN RANDALL WAS ANGRY WITH ME BECAUSE I WOULD NOT ACCEPT SUCH A LOW OFFER. HE CALLED ME AND ASKED ” ARE YOU GOING TO TAKE THIS OFFER” I SAID “ABSOLUTELY NOT” JUSTIN RANDALL REPLIED “THEN YOU WON’T GET ANYTHING”.

    JUSTIN HUNG UP THE PHONE VERY ANGRY. HE SENT A LIEN FOR APPROXIMATELY $12,000.00 TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY. LATER THAT DAY, HE ADDED $2400.00 MORE TO IT AND SENT A REPLACEMENT LIEN FOR $14, 2764.64 TO THE INSURANCE COMPANY. THE INSURANCE COMPANY AND DOCTORS NOTIFIED ME. I WAS NEVER TOLD ANYTHING BY ANY ATTORNEY.


    I HAVE OPENED A CASE AGAINST GLEN LERNER, JUSTIN RANDALL, SCOTT GUIDO AND A FILED A POLICE REPORT AGAINST SCOTT SHIPPEE.

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